Comments for Scrum Blog for Python 3 Patterns & Idioms

Comment on Moved to BitBucket/Mercurial by manuzhai

manuzhai — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:30:05 +0000

Maybe you can play a role in the upcoming DVCS discussion on python-dev? There are some ardent bzr supporters there, so it would be nice to have some hg clout (specifically switchers from bzr!).

Comment on One More Delay by yarkot

yarkot — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:43:04 +0000

Pretty ambitious! (Well, patterns should still matter) – Jython is 2.5a3; Have they started any Python 3 work?

Comment on Bruce by yarkot

yarkot — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:23:41 +0000

I could have _sworn_ I had another link to something like the cheat-sheet diagram that (I now realize) exists for mercurial: http://edong.net/2008v1/docs/dongwoo-Hg-120dpi.png

Maybe I’ll try making something similar for bzr/launchpad…. stay tuned…

Comment on Bruce by Bruce

Bruce — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:59:09 +0000

Yes, with the caveat that we don’t end up making the project too hard. I mentioned omnigraffle because it always gets raves for simplicity and the polish of its results. I know inkscape is impressive but I’ve heard it’s kind of an expert-level tool.

One possibility is to create the diagrams in the tool of your choice, and then when they stabilize they can be redone in something like omnigraffle to produce publication-quality work. Ideally this final pass would be done by a single person so the diagrams have consistency.

This way you don’t have to feel constrained by the diagramming tool, or feel held back by having to learn a new one. People could use google sketchup, for that matter (and that might produce satisfactory results). Only when the book is being prepared for press will the polishing of the diagrams be considered; up until then you can use whatever you want.

Comment on Bruce by yarkot

yarkot — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:53:50 +0000

Perhaps the Bazaar quick reference links will be helpful:

http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/quick-reference/quick-start-summary.svg

Comment on Bruce by yarkot

yarkot — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:27:53 +0000

Omnigraffle? Os-X only?

Umm, can we consider using something open for diagrams? Open Office Draw? Inkscape? I’ve got PC and Linux (Fedora) for options…

BTW – thanks for posting the UTF-8 tree conversion script to the Sphinx group.

Comment on Bruce by yarkot

yarkot — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:09:28 +0000

RE: Blueprints: Browse around the various bazaar blueprints; there seem to be a lot of alternative links / uses. Like issues, but requirements development. Some under-development specs are visible; some require login… it’s worth a poke around. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/bzr

RE: Sphinx: I’ve tried to create a sphinx doc w/ sphinx on Windows using MikTeX 2.7 (Have used this to create entire books / John Wiley styles). For Sphinx, I’m getting errors. Anyone else having troubles?

Comment on Bruce by cdleary

cdleary — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:38:42 +0000

Categories are like tags that you want to make more permanent and/or pronounced. From what I’ve seen, people start off using tags and promote them to categories if they find a lot of their content uses that tag.

In Launchpad there is a single “trunk” pointer. If the trunk gatekeeper (AKA maintainer) is a single user, it points at a branch owned by the user. If the maintainer is a group, it points at a branch owned by the group. Any user can host their own branch of the project on Launchpad and propose merges into the trunk, which are signed off on by the maintainer (user or group).

The nice thing about Bazaar (and DVCS in general) is that there’s not much required structure. Everything is a branch, and that’s pretty much the end of the story. You can do things like tagging and multi-branch repositories like in Subversion, but I’ve never found a need to.